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  1. John Peachy

    John Peachy Well-Known Member

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    The three relegated teams will be from here, unless the Pigs get a massive points deduction.

    Charlton on 45 points need a win & a couple of draws to be safe.

    Boro have Warnock.

    Odds would probably say us, Luton & Hull for the drop, but there is a fight to be maintained. Huddersfield haven't really progressed under Cowley & neither Stoke under O'Neill as yet, they got a bounce but are now in shizzle county. We need a bit of luck & a stroke of genius from Struber. I think he's capable.
     
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    The reason not to get too disheartened after yesterday, which I thought was a solid point and performance, is that the fixtures for all the teams at the bottom see them playing each other. Obviously we need a positive result on Tuesday, but beating Stoke and Luton back to back could be game changing.

    We've clawed it back to four points. Let's hope we can put another dent in that gap on Tuesday, even if it's just to three points, and then tackle those three MASSIVE games in a row.
     
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    Yep. As I put in the other thread, I'd take a draw on Tuesday. The three games following it are much more important.
     
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    Forget it - Rotherham are coming up we usually replace each other! But one never knows with it not being a normal time.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Stoke away is going to be the crunch game for me. Win there and who knows?
     
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    Wigan are flying before and after lockdown..
    After
    27th june
    Wigan 2 - 0 blackburn
    20th June
    Huddersfield 0 - 2 wigan

    Before

    March 7th
    Wigan 0 - 0 luton
    29th feb
    West brom 0 - 1 wigan
    26th feb
    Reading 0 - 3 wigan
    22nd feb
    Wigan 1 - 0 millwall
    15th feb
    Cardiff 2 - 2 wigan
     
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    6 clean sheets safe now not heard much about their former Barnsley striker.
     
  9. Farnham_Red

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    He is a regular starter for them
     
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    We're doing well in the form table. Problem is that the teams that were around us I.e. Wigan, Charlton and Luton have been doing even better.
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    Its annoying isnt it - in around half the seasons something like 44 points is enough for safety and a few weeks ago it looked like that was going to be the case this season - now its looking like 50 and even that isnt guaranteed to be enough
     
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    Not making any predictions. I've seen enough of us since Struber came in to know that it's still in our hands even though there is a four point deficit. Struber has always remained calm. It's as if he and the players know something we don't.
     
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    It's still broadly in our own hands if we win on Tuesday and then play a run of games with the teams in an amongst us. Lose on Tuesday and we can almost chalk **** on it.

    We're going to need Cauley to step up and score a few because nobody else is looking like it and seven 0-0 draws isn't going to work.
     
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    #14 Redhelen, Jun 29, 2020
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    Will feel better on Tuesday once we've hit the 40s!

    Since the restart we've gained 4 points on Huddersfield, 3 points on Hull and Stoke, 1 point on Boro, as we were with Luton

    Charlton have gained 2 points as have Wigan. I think they may be out of reach now.

    If I could choose Hull, Huddersfield and Stoke to go down.
     
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    I'd go along with that, Helen.
     
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    so would I
    I think Wigan have gone - top of the form table since January and showing no signs of collapsing again
    Charlton are looking safe but need a couple more wins to be sure - I think they will get them but they did have a bad run when they didnt win for quite a few games - we can hope they do the same
    Still think its odds on us Luton and one from Hull/Huddersfield but hopefully both Hull and Hudds are down and we can finish above Stoke or Luton
     
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    I wouldn't complain TOO much if we win all our last seven matches(!):D:D
     
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    I'd like a win against Blackburn and that takes the pressure off the three games against the teams round us. I'd hate those games to be all or nothing as the team have proven all season they bottle it.
     
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    See below what I posted in another thread the other evening. In 4 out of the previous 5 championship seasons a team would have needed just 41 or 42 points to finish 21st and survive when compared to the points total of the 22nd placed team. The only anomaly during that period is 2016/2017 when Forest stopped up on goal difference with 51 points. Certainly think this season it will take 50+ points to stop up with the current 21st placed team (Hull) on 42 points with 7 matches remaining. It also shows that's there's been some really poor teams in this division the last few seasons (us included under Morais) despite the money spent on transfers and wages. I really hope we stay up because next season I think we could flourish. A number of teams won't be spending anything like what they have over recent seasons.

    2018/2019
    21st Millwall 44 points
    22nd Rotherham 40 points

    2017/2018
    21st Bolton 43 points
    22nd Barnsley 41 points (Burton Albion also finished on 41 points).

    2016/2017
    21st Notts Forest 51 points
    22nd Blackburn Rovers 51 points
    Forest stopped up on goal difference.

    2015/2016
    21st Rotherham United 49 points
    22nd Charlton Athletic 40 points

    2014/2015
    21st Rotherham United 46 points
    22nd Millwall 41 points
     
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    Depends how you look at it though to stay up Rotherham would have needed 45 points
    We would have needed 44 points
    Charlton would have needed 50 points
    Millwall would have needed 47 points
    It could easily be that safety is around 45 points if us Luton and Hull dont pick up many more points but for any of us to actually escape 50+ points will be needed. I cant see us staying up on less than 50 points. Hull or Huddersfield might though
     

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