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  1. red

    redrum Well-Known Member

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    the "potential failure of their enterprise"..wow... we're owned by billionaires right?
     
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    Ten bob billionaires, doesnt read well.
     
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    That article is really sounding alarm bells to me. Why should a board purportedly comprising
    several reported millionaires/billionaires countenance sending such a letter to the EFL.? Something
    doesn't sound right somehow.
     
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    Lancesbro Well-Known Member

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    Always about the money and no particular concerns regards sporting achievement i.e. which league we're in next season.
     
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    good to see the letter references the Derby County/Wednesday situation.
     
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    "the £7.4m received by each Championship club should be paid to the three relegated teams next season, to help them survive the lack of income caused by the coronavirus pandemic."

    Nowt to do with us being **** and selling all our best players?

    Here's some money Barnsley because while everyone else kept their best players in an attempt to stay in the league, you sold all yours for profit, so it's only right we give you some more money.
     
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    Some clubs also bought and/ or paid wages for players way above what they could ‘ normally’ afford by cheating FFP rules. They can have whatever payment is due be it promotion money ( if they were promoted) or Championship money. Here you go ave it
     
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    Agree that some have cheated, and they should be dealt with appropriately. Doesn't make our case any stronger though. We sold our best players and we want paying out for doing so. It's ridiculous.
     
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    redrum Well-Known Member

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    That's how I read it too, we have ****** up but can we have some money if we go down instead of us having to break into our own
     
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    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    Our case isn’t only that and It still could’ve been a different story had others not cheated
     
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    And that's why I will be requesting my money back that they owe me. Rich men with no morals doing whatever they can to get richer
     
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    There's no doubt there are clubs in this league that are working outside the rules of financial fair play. If our board stick to highlighting that then I'm right behind them. It needs addressing and it needs someone to stand up to an organisation that aren't fit for purpose and refuse to do so. Good on us for being outspoken on it.

    But some of the stuff in this article is garbage. If they're direct quotes and we've said that I'm ashamed. Simple fact is we went into this season with a squad not fit for purpose and we were the architects of that.
     
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    I agree with all that. I think they will be abit concerned if we are relegated and the arse falls out of the transfer market with many clubs been skint.
     
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    I'm not sure that I understand the logic that has been used above. Every other club in the Championship has been over-paying their players. They have been over-spending in the transfer market. Their Annual Financial Statements have reported huge losses... year after year. They have broken the FFP rules, and in a number of cases, they have sold their grounds at a vastly inflated price to companies controlled by owners in order to create false profits in order to defeat those self-same FFP rules. The companies that own those football clubs have had to be refinanced through the injection of huge amounts of capital through loans or increases in share capital. These sums of money can never be recovered. The money has been raised in this way has been given to very rich footballers, making them even richer and changing the whole face of the sport that I grew up with. I remember footballers as friends and neighbours, but now they live away from the people who they play for. They are separated from us by their vast wealth. They are the elite. The Championship is as guilty as the Premier League in this respect. In fact, it is more guilty, because it is spending money that it cannot afford to spend.

    The one club that I would exempt from the above criticism is Barnsley FC. My club tries to live within its means, and unfortunately, that means that we have to sell in order to break even and avoid having to be re-financed. The owners do not take a dividend. They do not pay themselves huge sums. They sign players who they can afford, and when the player wants to leave because he can earn more money elsewhere, then they sell for a profit that will keep the club going. At one time, football was like this for most. The Premier League and SKY money has changed things for the few. The Championship is full of clubs that believe if they overspend for long enough, then they will be asked to join the gravy train. This has created a huge gap between spending in League 1, and spending in the Championship. You only have to look at the bottom 3 clubs to see how true that statement is. Should my club break the rules? Should my club over-spend just like the rest? Is that the answer? To cheat? I think not, but I am just an old man who remembers better, fairer days.
     
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    What hashs any of that got to do with barnsley asking for millions of additional money if we get relegated?
     
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    The logic that was used earlier was that we did not deserve anything because we sold our best players and have been relegated as a result of our own poor management. I do not believe that we are poorly managed. I believe that if your club is £100m in debt, then it has been poorly managed. Our club does not have debts.
     
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    I’m not sure this has reduced my concerns about shelling out for season tickets!!
     
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    If you read the quote taken from the article then we are asking for money because of "the lack of income caused by the coronavirus pandemic". We're suggesting we will lose out on the payments enjoyed by a Championship Clubs because of a global pandemic. No we won't. It's ludicrous to suggest so. We will lose out because our team wasn't good enough. Sorry you don't get that logic but it's really without argument. The issue surrounding clubs breaking the rules of ffp I agree with our club's stance on, but let's not undermine our position with this nonsense.
     
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    Time for a song....one thinks
    Conway are you Branson in disguise
    Are you Branson in disguise... Lol

    10 Bob billionaires... The lot of em
    The sooner they get out of our club the better we will be in my opinion.....
     
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