‘The risk of infection from children is very, very low’

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  1. Stephen Dawson

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

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    That's why unless the virus mutates into a weaker form it will be here for years unless a vaccine is developed. I haven't been temperature screened or swabbed and work in a Hospital. This asymptomatic business is the really scary part. We just don't know.
     
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    The guidance states that teachers and pupils should not use any PPE (except: where it used normally, for toileting for example; if a member of staff is supervising a child they believe to have it, the staff member should wear a face covering - not the child). It also says that parents shouldn't check their child's temperature before sending them to school as routine temperature checking is not useful.
     
  3. Don

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    He’s not his dad.
    Sending someone else into certain death isn’t the same as doing it yourself. :)
     
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    See that's the dumb part of the rule. Don't go to someone's house to social distance in their garden in your own small private group.

    But if you go to a park full of dozens if not hundreds of strangers you can meet them there.
     
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    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    And my Mother. And my wife works in a school. And both my kids go to school. Apart from that there's absolutely no impact to me.
     
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    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    "Certain death". You've caught Churton-itis, the R rate of it is increasing exponentially. Symptoms include losing the argument on empirical facts as more and more come out and reverting to silly emotional arguments that don't bear scrutiny.

    "Certain death" ffs.
     
  7. Don

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    Over 200 teachers have already died - low risk is low risk on paper, are you volunteering to be one of the next dead teachers?
     
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    Well sending them out to work is one way of settling your family disputes :p
     
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    That doesn't equate to "certain death", though does it. Last time I checked none of my teacher pals have died. It is horrible that teachers have died, but don't use ridiculous statements like that to further your argument or you just look a bit silly.
     
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    Tbf none of my frontline medical friends and acquaintances have died either, yet too many have. So the point you are making is?
     
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    No they haven't.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/ons-figures-reveal-65-covid-related-deaths-in-education/

    "The rate of COVID-19-related deaths among teaching and educational professionals, which for the purposes of the data collection excludes TAs, educational support assistants, lunchtime and crossing patrols, school secretaries and advisers and inspectors, was 6.7 per 100,000 for men and 3.3 for women.

    This is roughly the same rate as those classed as business and public service associate professionals (6.8 and 2.8) and corporate managers and directors (6.4 and 2.6), but much lower than those in elementary trades and related occupations (27.8 and 12.5) and those in textiles, printing and other skilled trades (24.6 and 7.0)."

    So they've been at no higher risk than anyone else during the epidemic, which would appear to suggest the CMO was correct in his assertion. You're struggling today, aren't you?
     
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    Well for some of them it obviously is certain death.

    like a bet on the football, you might only have a theoretical 1 in a thousand chance of winning, but someone’s going home with a jackpot. Or in the case of the teacher, leaving feet first.
     
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    The point im making is that it isnt "certain death" at all. And using that to further your argument is utterly retarded.
     
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    Why arent they including TAs I wonder?
     
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    You are incredible, i'll give you that.

    So out of the 200 that have died, could you let me know how many of them contracted the virus from pupils at school, please?
     
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    I’ll hold my hand up to taking my numbers from the post earlier in the thread and not doing my own research :)
    But those numbers are still amongst teachers, some with very few kids In school and many others with no contact with pupils, so will you model that up for us? How many will 65 become with full schools?
     
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    The 200 that's actually 65, do you mean?
     
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    I don’t know!

    But neither do you ;)
     
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    But CERTAIN DEATH! Are you happy about that?

    CERTAIN DEATH!
     
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    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    Cultist.
     
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