If I leave my front door unlocked and someone walks in and steals my TV am I to blame or the criminal?
So it’s the government’s fault that 600 parties had to be broken up last weekend. Is there anything you think might not be the fault of the government and maybe how a government of a different persuasion might have done it differently? Christ on a fuckin bike
You will find that you are not insured as you didn't take care to secure the property. The criminal will face arrest and conviction for the crime.
Perhaps the government could have had clear messages like the governments in other countries. Compare the weak, wishy-washy, unclear messaging from Johnson and co to that from Varadkar, Merkel or even Sturgeon. For a government that are supposed to be good at communicating, they have been terrible at every step of the way.
I know I wouldn't be insured but we all know that the person to blame would still be criminal. Its one thing to say the government isn't being strong enough, it's quite another to excuse the actions of the idiots because of it.
They were clear when they told the vulnerable to self isolate. The vulnerable were clear when they stuck two fingers up. I think the information has been pretty clear. At first they told just the vulnerable to self isolate. That was ignored en mass. They then told us to use common sense, avoid large gatherings avoid large gatherings. That was ignored en mass. They then imposed strict measures. You are only to go out for certain listed reasons. That is now being ignored Why deflect the blame from those ignoring to those giving out the instructions? Does anyone seriously believe that the information given out wasn't clear enough to know whether or not inviting all your mates round for a party was allowed? If anyone thinks that's the fault of the information being unclear then frankly I'm lost for words
If you're keeping schools open and allowing the Cheltenham festival to go ahead it did send out mixed messages at the beginning. I would have said you must be doing this, not appealed to common sense because this varies from individual to individual.
No, and it wasn’t as clear as it should have been. Remember when Johnson told pubs ‘to shut as soon as they possible could’. The language was wishy washy at best and pubs showed a glorious trade that night with parties left right and centre. 100s of thousands of people around the country stood next to each other with a pint. This was only 3 weeks ago. Then there was the thing about essential workers and I still know lots of People who are still working although their business is definitely not essential because the amount of grey areas within the reported rules. The fact that it took weeks and weeks to even start to lockdown was awful negligence. The one thing they have got right is the furlough system. Everything else has either been too late or poorly communicated. Granted, you can’t educate some idiots that no matter how clearly you communicate they either haven’t the capacity or thought process to listen to any direction whatsoever and the consequence to these people should be severe.
They have now said you MUST do this and yet people are having parties. That is solely the fault of those having parties. If people are too thick to have common sense that's fine but I'd find those people without any and remove their benefits including pensions and instead issue them with food parcels delivered weekl There was never anything saying only essential workers should work. That was never said so I don't know why so many people think that. What was said was only to travel to work if you couldn't work from home. ie if the travel was essential for your job not if your job was essential.
[/QUOTE] There was never anything saying only essential workers should work. That was never said so I don't know why so many people think that. What was said was only to travel to work if you couldn't work from home. ie if the travel was essential for your job not if your job was essential.[/QUOTE] What are you on about? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/when-work-lockdown-essential-key-workers-list/
There was never anything saying only essential workers should work. That was never said so I don't know why so many people think that. What was said was only to travel to work if you couldn't work from home. ie if the travel was essential for your job not if your job was essential.[/QUOTE] What are you on about? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/when-work-lockdown-essential-key-workers-list/[/QUOTE] That is the telegraph getting it spectacularly wrong. The key workers list is for childcare at schools. The rules on why you can leave your house is clear. "travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home". It doesn't say only where your job is defined as essential work.
To be fair it was very obvious that it was going to escalate how it has and they still did nothing. It's happening here exactly the same as it did in other countries, despite many people for some reason thinking that we would be different. It's the hubris of our government and population that has put us in this position. "We have the best scientists in the world on this" comes to mind from one of the first press conferences.
What are you on about? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/when-work-lockdown-essential-key-workers-list/[/QUOTE] That is the telegraph getting it spectacularly wrong. The key workers list is for childcare at schools. The rules on why you can leave your house is clear. "travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home". It doesn't say only where your job is defined as essential work.[/QUOTE] Right, I’m going to try again with another news paper, the Metro. Read it all, it’s not really about schooling. It’s suggesting that schools will stay open to support people who need to work because they are essential, to the National effort during this outbreak and lockdown. https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/24/travelling-work-coronavirus-uk-lockdown-12447044/
And knowing this, the government should be tightening the lockdown NOW. Bolting the stable door BEFORE the horse runs amok.
You really didn't need a crystal ball to see where things were going: http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/covid-19.289158/page-6#post-2436091
Yes they are the only people who schools are being essentially forced to care for. If anyone else needs to take time off work to care for their children they can. Businesses are still allowed to operate. Unless they are on the specific list that has been ordered to close. Essential or not you are allowed to operate a business and allowed to have employees. These employees are allowed to travel to work if they cannot work from home.
