Coates family are personally paying all non playing staff & have donated £10million pounds towards fight against CV19. I know a lot don’t agree with gambling etc in football but fair play to them.
I think if I paid myself £323 million pa (like Diane Coates, the UKs highest paid CEO) it's the very least I'd do.
You’d think so, but there are lots that are not or at least haven’t yet. I’m sure also there will be a tax benefit in there somewhere etc but IMO we need to be highlighting the positives that people are doing during this time.
No one knows how many deaths are related to gambling each year; but research indicates that there are between 250 and 650 gambling related suicides every year in the UK … a minimum of one every working day. This woman pays herself £323 million a year and her and other gambling companies are instrumental in every one of those deaths. She can put a price on the pain and misery her industry causes, but I find it unacceptable which is why I feel justified in my criticism.
There is surely more deaths from smoking or drinking but alot of people like a drink and a smoke,same as a lot of people like a flutter.Are all these unacceptable.
Is your criticism the fact they declare huge profits? Pay their taxes? Heavily donate to charities (£75 million last year) Give back to the local communities of Stoke and Port Vale? Or just the fact their choice of industry is one you don’t approve of?
There's some serious money in the gambling world. A mate of mines sister has a good job working for Bet365 and had to relocate from Gibraltar to Malta and was given £12 000 per month rent allowance just to find somewhere to live. Can't start to imagine what her salary must be??
Bet 365 is one of the few that pays some not all, of taxes. The vast majority don't as they're based abroad. Bet 365 has also moved some of its operations offshore for tax purposes. The charities to which they donate are in the main charities to help inveterate gamblers like 'Gamble Aware' and 'Gambling with Lives' which is both bizarre and hypocritical. I have no problem with companies making profits, as an investor in equities I welcome it, providing my dividends come from an ethical source. And finally you are correct in that I don't approve of how the gambling industry in UK is structured and how it operates. Do you approve of the needless deaths by suicide that stem from their egregious and nefarious activities ?
So the thread was about an individual who has chosen to contribute voluntarily a pretty decent sum and you have decided that despite confirming they pay taxes, do charity work etc she should be condemned because she is part of an industry you don’t believe in. Bizarre. If she was one of the others that you rightly refer to I could understand it but by your own admission we are not. What actions are evil and illegal that you speak of. Please elaborate as I’m not aware of anything they do illegal(evil is subjective)? Perhaps you consider all the work she does locally with schools and community clubs as evil or illegal? Or the efforts towards communities affected by Tsunamis? Significant donations to West African countries during the height of Ebola crisis? Medical research donations? No you’ve either chose to ignore, conveniently leave out or weren’t aware with your charity references? Oh and you’re talking about Bet365 not Denise Coates which I am, which this thread was about. Do you feel the same about the alcohol industry which contributes to far more suicides than gambling?
[QUOTE=" What actions are evil and illegal that you speak of. Please elaborate as I’m not aware of anything they do illegal(evil is subjective)? Do you feel the same about the alcohol industry which contributes to far more suicides than gambling?[/QUOTE] Your extraneous comments are pure and simple sophistry, you must work for Bet 365. You chose to avoid addressing the morality of an industry that causes something like 500 t0 600 deaths a year, that is evil and not subjective. As for nefarious it will not be that long before a betting company is indicted under the Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Act 2007. The continuation of this discourse with yourself is obviously futile. I have no desire to prolong a discourse on the morality of an industry that you approve and who puts its wealth accumulation before the lives of its clients (ie. the source of its wealth).
Your extraneous comments are pure and simple sophistry, you must work for Bet 365. You chose to avoid addressing the morality of an industry that causes something like 500 t0 600 deaths a year, that is evil and not subjective. As for nefarious it will not be that long before a betting company is indicted under the Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Act 2007. The continuation of this discourse with yourself is obviously futile. I have no desire to prolong a discourse on the morality of an industry that you approve and who puts its wealth accumulation before the lives of its clients (ie. the source of its wealth).[/QUOTE] I’ve never said I approved or disapproved of betting, what I’ve said is an individual has made a good gesture of which you have chose to comment on with some generalised gambling comments. You’ve offered absolutely nothing towards that person as an individual except to quote betting in general, I have offered factual instances where this person has done good and positive things so perhaps it is yourself using simple sophistry? The irony is not missed that a self confessed investor is slating the gambling industry. Investing is nothing more than a form of gambling, you just use different information sources to calculate if it’s worth a gamble. IMO your initial comment about salary was a fair comment, which if you look back I didn’t disagree with. I note also you failed to answer about the alcohol industry that contributes to far more suicides than gambling does.
