Hancock - Exercise could be banned outside the home

But then it's only your opinion that it carries no risk to yourself and others.
There are many real experts advising the government that we need to follow these guidelines to reduce the death toll...but hey your physical and mental health is more important isn't it?
Go out, help spread the virus, help kill people, you called for restrictions before they came in...now you don't want to follow the restrictions because they don't suit you.

 

You what? I'm following the guidelines - solitary exercise maintaining at the very least 2m of distance. Please point me to any expert advice that doing that poses any risk to myself or others and I'll happily reassess my stance.

 

Everybodies doing the Len Ganley stance.

 

IN SCOTLAND YES

 

In Westminster anall.

 

Yes but you said earlier that if the guidelines changed then you were going to ignore them. That's what's got a few backs up.

 

the OP said the guidelines were possibly going to change. You said fvck that il do what I want. If you can’t see what’s wrong in that there’s no point carrying on the discussion.

 

Too many on here taking the moral high ground for me. For the record I’m going for a long walk every day as near to open space as I can get. If we see anyone else coming the other way they all move at least 2m away to avoid us (apart from one jogger last week). I think (hope) the current measures are enough and we will see cases/deaths drop in the next week and a half if our scientists are right.
However if the new research from China is correct and we’re going to shut people in at home for weeks on end with no chance to exercise then domestic abuse cases and suicides are going to rocket.
It’s a real difficult balancing act....

 

My position is that if the state restricts my freedom without adequate justification then yeah, I'll ignore it. But I'll only ignore it to carry on with activities for which there is no evidence that they carry any risks to myself or another. If there is any evidence that I place myself or others at risk by doing so then I won't. But there isn't, so I'll carry on rather than bouncing off the walls.

I find it scary how quickly people are willing to accept these measures without any question.

 

So we should all be to make our own informed decision as to whether we adhere to any new proposed restriction?

And if we don't agree with it, we can ignore it?

 

I see the point you're making, but the question in response is whether we should blindly follow any measures taken by a government to restrict the freedoms of its citizens regardless of whether or not they are justified?

 

That's exactly the point.

Parks, fields, hillsides have been full of people with this exact attitude. And it is exactly why further restrictions will probably have to be implemented. If everyone is of the opinion that it doesn't matter to them, then we are in the brown stuff.

Poor.

 

Its selfish if you ask me. We all know I disagree with this lockdown **** but I'm going to abide by it because it's utterly selfish to ignore it and force millions of people to suffer for longer because of my actions

 

They've been full of people who are driving there rather than exercising locally, people who have been congregating in groups and visiting for reasons other than their one lot of exercise per day. There is evidence and logic that all of these contribute to the spread of disease, which is why I'm fully in support of restricting these activities.

 

There will always be dissent where individual liberty is being sought to be suppressed.

I agree that any such restrictions should be palpably understandable.. And argued about, challenged etc.

But for the sake of perhaps a month or so, and for the sake of all of us, I believe it is wrong to say "I'm doing what I like and what I think I ought to be able to do, regardless".

 

Exactly. I disagree with it too - but the quickest way for it to disappear is to comply.

 

How is carrying on with solitary exercise selfish? Who does it prejudice?

 

but you’ve already said in this thread you were calling for greater protection measures and at an earlier time. Then because they might stop you doing something you enjoy to benefit the greater good you’ve had a mare.

I’m no fan of state control but come on, go read your initial response. you got it wrong and probably should stop digging.

 

Even where what I'm proposing to do only includes activities that are accepted as not carrying a risk?

 

Nothing at the moment which is why it's allowed. If you were to continue to do so when we've been told not to then it's selfish and prolonging the agony for others.