A question for the 'deniers' on here

I didn't feel that was the case but if i misinterpreted this then i apologise. The thread is there to see if people want to take a look.

 

Isn't denier the word they use to grade tights?

 

My point has always been that flu kills many many people and nobody cares.

If for example a relative died of flu would it hurt any less than if they died of coronavirus? No it wouldn't so why have we sacrificed thousands every year if lockdown for a few weeks would prevent those deaths?

That's my point. Not that this isnt serious

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...need-adopt-herd-immunity.html#reader-comments

Get ready for more deaths if he's listened to.

 

Because a flu outbreak doesn't tend to cripple the NHS if we don't go into lockdown. This will if we just suck it up and take our chances. I've had flu and I've had swine flu. Both were extremely unpleasant. This is new, different, highly contagious and without a vaccine.

 

But if we did we would save lives wouldn't we? We accept that social distancing and a lockdown during incubation period stops the spread of these viruses. How many deaths does it have to be to decide we lock people up?

Doris can catch flu and die but it doesn't matter.
Mavis can catch covid-19 and that's an outrage

See the hypocrisy?

 

No, i think you are missing the point of the lockdown. The premise will be that unfortunately a great deal of those in old age will be wiped out by anything whether it be pneumonia, flu, chest infection, etc etc.

This could and would cripple the NHS like nothing else has and that in itself would lead to more fatalities.

That isn't being disrespectful to Doris, it is a sad fact of nature I'm afraid. We aren't converting exhibition centres for a laugh, this is extremely serious. Listen to the experts.

 

I am listening. I haven't left the house.

I'm also aware that we've had to tell adults not to cough on each other which shows how little we care about doris

 

Who? If you mean me, I’m certainly not. I totally disagree with the lockdown and what we’re doing as I think it will cause ten times the health and societal issues that the virus itself will - the cure will be worse than the symptoms, to quite a popular phrase - but I do understand it’s serious.

Equally, I think divs like Neil Ferguson have made people think it’s more severe than it actually is - half a million deaths my arse. How anyone listens to him after the needless slaughter of millions of animals on his say-so is utterly beyond me. This is my main beef, I agree with this guy:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-warns-Britain-need-adopt-herd-immunity.html

 

I've tried to explain the reasons for it and I don't want to go around in circles. Nobody is 'outraged' when someone in their 80s and 90s dies of it. I think most people accept that it is a horrible virus and sadly our most vulnerable are at high risk. But what is also a fact of life is that there is a certain percentage of the population that is all the time 1-2 weeks away from death. It is to be expected- no matter how sad that is- that many of those might get this and die somewhat sooner. Im not talking those that would live years more.

In short, we are doing this to avoid overloading the NHS. We have never had to do this before. It is as simple as that.

 

Which is what I keep saying this is about trying to keep the amount the health service is overwhelmed down. I still genuinely believe the end game is to let the virus spread and burn itself out. Just to try and control how that happens.

 

Doris can also get a flu jab every year to prevent catching flu and dying. Not everyone who is eligible for a flu jab gets one and this would reduce the number of fatalities. Again this option is not available for CV.

 

Yep. Two things with flu jab though, firstly it can't guarantee you won't still get flu and secondly as far as Im aware for a smallish fee (about a tenner?) those that aren't eligible for a jab can get one if they wish at their local pharmacy

 

I think aliens are a conspiracy, but I have been anally probed by the government.

 

The point is that this is highly contagious, a lot more so than flu
There was an expert in the early days that said if a person had flu, on average they'd infect 1.5 people.
After a factor of 10, the original infection would have led to another 14 other people catching it.
Do the same with CV-19 and it leads to 59,000 from the original infection.
It's not a case of no-one gives a **** about flu victims, they do.
but with CV there needs to be social distancing and lockdown otherwise the NHS will be totally overwhelmed and deaths will multiply exponentially.

 

But the statistics prove that not to be the case.
Unless of course you compare an entire winters flu with the first 3 weeks of Covid 19.

or all winters ever - which of course proves flu kills for more people

If I look at the stats it’s difficult to imagine a day in recent history where 700 people died of flu in the UK.

 

The statistics prove what not to be the case?

 

That flu kills more people - I literally quoted what you’d posted above and responded to it.

in an average year there’s less than 20,000 flu deaths in the uk, if we’re kind and call that 6 months, it’s just over 3000 a month.
This week we have over 2000 Covid 19 deaths, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we have 3000 in a week sometime soon.

 

That certainly isn't what you quoted from me.

 

Apologies I read many many as many more.

Still think you’re wrong btw, the government spends millions mitigating flu every year. So to suggest no one cares is incorrect.