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  1. wak

    wakeyred Well-Known Member

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    My wife has a "low-skilled" job as a care working looking after who you might call the "criminally insane" and is badly paid for her troubles, but you simply cannot take people off the street and put them into a care setting like that, and even if you "train" them there are people who are just not suited for working in the care setting, especially those with other needs. Similarly working on a farm isn't for everyone - it lends itself to young, mobile, single men - you cannot reasonably expect a woman in her 50s in Manchester who doesn't work but say, looks after her grandkids to move to Lincoln to pick Broccoli, its absolute and utter crap.
     
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    It would make a great novella though.
     
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    Id get Emma Thompson in for the film.
     
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    I’m afraid you haven’t ‘made’ a point. You just gave a description of what ‘net’ means, and only an idiot would need that pointing out!

    so what exactly is your point?
     
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    To those who voted for Brexit and are about to get a very rude awakening when either they've got to stump up more cash through taxes or personal contributions to keep granny in her care home or heaven forbid look after her themselves in between them and her having to pick fruit serve in a shop wait tables in a restaurant etc etc then find that when they finally collapse through stress and exhaustion the queue at A&E is measured in days not hours. Tough luck you voted for it then decided to give Boris free reign to implement a hard right tory version of it. You were warned but didn't want to listen.
     
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    The plot is coming together. Central character "Sheila" (Emma Thompson), moves from Manchester to Spaulding to pick broccoli, cauliflower & lettuce. She gets repetitive strain injury & sets up a militant wing of the Brassica Growers Association, where she meets Peter, a therapist with an interest in bee keeping (Hugh Grant). How's the pitch going?
     
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    Im liking it. To develop the plot further a rival love interest and a long lost daughter are needed? Possibly intertwined within a whimsical argument about biscuits at the local meeting of the countryside alliance. I’ve got a feeling a meddling council official played by Peter Kay could be a bit left field but may work.
     
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    A damn sight better than the The Durrells. Too many forriners in that one. ;)
     
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    I'm retired, she can fck reight off, tory bitch.
     
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    Lawrence Fox could play the wicked son of the owner,who has his pleasure with the women pickers.
     
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    just nudge the retirement age up to 70 - no state pension will force a few into low skilled paid jobs to make ends meet
     
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    An angle I had missed but quite a valid one
     
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    I’m a fully qualified tradesman who won’t be lucky enough to benefit from a decent industry pension and therefor expect to work until I can’t, along with a lot of people younger than me. If I get forced back to work at this stage I will build things out of plumb and level until I get the sack, I will then turn my hand to eating everything I pick. Free food, voila!
     
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    If you believe that the population is increasing too quickly for legitimate reasons, and if you believe that one of the government's main jobs is to bring the rate of increase down, in part by using immigration laws, then net immigration is all you need to ascertain whether they've done that. A person leaving is exactly the same as a person not arriving, and adjusting either arrivals or departures is a legitimate way to achieve the goal.

    Surely the only reason you'd be concerned about the gross (unfortunate choice of word there!) immigration numbers is if you just don't like foreigners.
     
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    Not so sure about that.
    I worked many years in secure inpatient mental health services and we regularly had new starters who had little or no previous experience. Most after the initial 'fear and shock' proved to be highly valued members of staff. On the other hand we had many newly qualified nurses who had spent 3 years training who couldn't hack it and therefore became 'office Olympians' before being rooted out.
     
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    see my reply to Sestren
     
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    Tonjytyke Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't be further from the truth. The governments job is to implement their manifesto and my point is that they pull the wool over peoples eyes very easily. By using the net word they can make any figures look like anything they want. Just like the brexit debate.
     
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    But we’ve always used net migration figures; this isn’t a case of the government pulling the wool.

    I agree that the government are dishonest about immigration, and the Tories are terrible for promising to reduce immigration because it appeals to their voters, whilst at the same time allowing almost uncontrolled immigration because their mates in the CBI demand access to the foreign workers.
     
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    Sean Bean as the unscrupulous gang boss who saves our leading lady from being assaulted behind the picking shed, but really has bad intentions for her.
     
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    Perhaps a gay lover reappears in Peter (Hugh Grant)'s life from nowhere, a university fling. A former olive salesman from South Yorkshire called George? Sheila is conflicted and quits the farm & is denied Universal Credit & ends up in the arms of the Lawrence Fox character, who keeps her in a cellar.
     
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