Playing out from the back.

When we play out from the keeper it creates space in front of us, helps keep possession, keeps the opposition chasing. I think Struber will not change from this and we will give away opportunities to other teams but its working for us at present.
Anderson Diaby and Radlinger get stick but it's going to happen playing this way but they are doing alright.

 

Passing short to Diaby is suicide.

 

There is a right time and a wrong time, we need to focus on that IMO.

 

Playing out from the back is a good tactic with the right players.

But at the minute it’s like trying eat soup with a fork, we don’t have the right utensils. I have no doubt in my mind the way Struber wants us to play is the right way but we need the right players in order to do so. Luckily it looks like he’s being backed to some extent by the board with fetching Ritzmaier in so hopefully this continues.

 

How many times has it worked?

Cos I can give you a list as long as my arm with the times it hasn't.

Starting with the 3 or 4 times today it put us in the *****.

 

Passing not dribbling is what is required. Posted same on diaby thread. Anderson did it in 1st and they almost scored.

 

Playing out from the back is the vogue right now. I would like to see us play a bit random though by occasionally going a route 1 ball. It would make us unpredictable at least.

 

I can see the benefits to it but I want us to be playing with the ball as far up the pitch as we can because our defence scares me.

Huddersfield had a little spell where they were sort of penning us in and we got a goal kick but instead of playing it up field, we played it short and lost the ball and therefore, allowed the play to be back in our own third yet again. Sometimes you need to just get out and it’s like we can’t realise that.

 

I can guarantee with our current defence and forward line we'd concede far more goals if we lumped it upfront and had even less of the ball!

 

I like the idea but we need some better players at the back to do it.

 

Not exactly lump it up, but there's no reason to pass it 3 yards to the left or right.

Brown is a good outlet. Hit him.

 

I was being a bit facetious, but I'd rather us at least try and keep possession because it's terrifying when we don't have the ball. And if we can't pass it 5 yards I definitely don't fancy our chances of playing it 40 yards to someone's feet

 

Haha. Also true. I like is playing football. Just not in our own box.

 

I can see the plan - it retains possession and although is scary at times, it does work - and results are improving.

I agree though later on in the game, sometimes we need to just get shut of it. Radlinger’s long kicking is decent and he can pick a player out.

But, people do need to realise - it’s Struber’s decision to do this, not the players. They are following instructions. If people don’t like it, don’t blame the players, blame the coach.

 

Spot on!

 

When Radlinger played it straight down the middle to Halme it put us in trouble every time. And giving the ball to Andersen in 20 yards of space means he has choices. Andersen is terrible when he's got choices as he can't make his mind up and inevitably gets closed down. Diaby always looks likely to knock the ball too far and lose possession. Other than that, it seems to be working well...

 

I thought it worked pretty well today, apart from a few instances where we tried to play out when we were well and truly penned in. The players are following orders, but should be given a little discretion to pump it long if that's what's needed to get out. It's also not a good idea to be too predictable, that's how you get caught out.

 

Do you play russian roulette in your spare time for kicks?

This type of play works for Liverpool & Man City. I'm not saying playing out short a good percentage of the time is not a good way forward, but when you do it all the time you are putting pressure on to players that are not of a high enough standard to pull it off.

 

I don't mind Radlinger passing to the flanks or Andersen or Diaby wide of the 18 yard box, but it's the next pass that's crucial. If there's no easy ball available, they've got to knock it down the channel for Brown or Chaplin to chase. I accept Radlinger knocking it long down the middle is a waste of time, but both Chaplin and Brown can run the channels well, so this is a much safer option. Plus this would draw out the centre halves.

 

I hate this tactic. full stop.