What on earth was Struber doing

He can control the ball wonderfully. I'm sure he's absolutely **** hot at keepie uppies. His technique is not in question, it's fantastic. But that doesn't mean he can play football in the professional leagues. Time and time again he shows he can't.

We started the game with 9 players tonight, because Bahre and Schmidt contributed nothing. Others made mistakes, got things wrong, but they were there, involved, trying. You cannot carry players like these two. Derby should have been four up before we subbed Bahre and Schmidt should have gone with him. Bahre can trap a ball and Schmidt can finish, but if they cannot get involved in a game they shouldn't be in the game. particularly when we have players not even making the bench who can contribute far, far more. They may be limited, all our players are, but they've got something, not nothing.

 

Can't answer that but apparently he got involved in an off field incident recently.

 

Certainly not a coincidence the transfer window is open and suddenly our best players are picking up injuries

 

Loads of positivity from you..... Could do wi you being a leeds fan

 

Can one of these bahre fans tell me again how good he is?

 

What's the point? You've made up your mind. Had high hopes for him this season but overall he's been poor. But so have the majority of our team. However, I still think he has a lot to offer. He was excellent against Hull recently and he's also started in 3 of our 4 victories this season. This forum becomes a bit boring when folk treat it as a point scoring exercise.

 

Just think he goes missing far too often he has 1 good game in 8 and that's been generous, great control good a turning with the ball. Cant tackle, cant finish, very slow poor man's george moncur. Hope he comes good but needs to sort himself out. Cant understand his frustration at been dubbed offered nothing.

 

I'm interested. Genuinely interested and not interested in point scoring. If you write I'll definitely read.

 

Fair criticism and I too hope he comes good. Poor man's moncur is a bit far though! Turned out to be a good substitution by Struber today. However I don't think anyone could've complained about being taken off after 20 mins. We were collectively shocking today and should've been 4-0 down at half time.

 

Agree very frustrating after the past few games to turn out a display like that

 

I'm knackered and need to sleep but I'll try to put together my supporting statement for bahre's inclusion in the squad tomorrow. And I was perhaps a bit harsh on redrum, who I generally find a very decent poster on this forum.

 

No worries

But if you do find the energy tomorrow I will read it and I will take it on board. If not that's OK too. Life is hard enough without having to write essays on here.

 

We can't all be Red Rains!

 

Ill try....Mike has been dissapointing overall this season. However there is a real player on there. Recently (when stuber picked him and other than the last 2 games) he has played as well as anyone. He scored one and set 2 up and gelled the team together recently ....and he can do that. He combines well with mowatt, woody and chaplin (id add odour to that list too) because they are footballers and when that has happened imho in previous games we have looked a better more cohesive unit, because we keep and use the ball much better, which you need to at this level. There are hardly any alternatives to this (mcgeehan?!!) or kids learning their craft like simoes (who did ok last night).
Im not going to defend mike's last 2 games......he has been shocking but to suggest he cant play football is as wide of the mark, as it is to suggest hes our best player. He is a young, highly technical player who we need on his "A" game...that hasnt happened in the last 2 games and he deserves criticism.
Lots of players have faults....Schmidt is no where near this level .....yet....thomas is quick and clever but usually flatters to deceive around the 18 yard box.
I think we all know we need better players for this level....Derby were poor (as they were at oakwell) they have no pace and their passing overall was dreadful but they deserved their win last night, because the team last night id argue put in our worst performance under our new coach and bahre was a big part of that.

 

He`s an enigma!
I think most can see talent there but he seems incapable of putting the hard work in that we need in these difficult times.......
And his idea of tackling is interesting!

 

Saved me a job! I think we are at our best as a team when bahre is playing and playing well. Granted that's been far too infrequent this season but I don't think we should write him off just yet. I don't think he's suited to playing at the top of a diamond however. As Struber appears to expect the player in that position to be quite close to the forwards, who often split and operate quite wide. I think Bahre is more suited playing a bit deeper in the positions which were occupied by mowatt and Thomas yesterday. When played here he is able to get on the ball and start attacks. I think both the first two goals against Hull demonstrate how he can do this effectively. In my opinion he's one of the few players in our team who can take on a man and receive the ball in tight spaces. The latter skill being particularly important when playing with a compact midfield in a possession based team. But yes his inability to sometimes do the simple stuff can be infuriating.

 

I wouldn't have started the way he did but when he realised he'd made an error he changed it. Fair play to him.

 

Few days behind on this but the big issue with Bahre is if he’s not playing well on the ball then he’s completely useless as he gives you nothing off the ball.

Alex Mowatt for example can have a shocker on the ball but will still run himself into the ground & be an asset to the team who might even set a goal up from a set piece on a bad day like Hourihane would.

The problem is there’s no real alternative as Thomas hasn’t been much use as a starter either which is why Struber’s supposedly signing a midfielder today & then we’ll see Bahre & Thomas been knocked down the pecking order to impact players off the bench which is what they’re both suited to right now.