video of pen

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by red24/7, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. red

    red24/7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2015
    Messages:
    6,782
    Likes Received:
    6,823
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    #1 red24/7, Nov 27, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2018
    the ref as m<div style="width: 100%; height: 0px; position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.250%;"><iframe src="" frameborder="0" width="100%" height="100%" allowfullscreen style="width: 100%; height: 100%; position: absolute;"></iframe></div>ade a shocking decision in my opinio
     
  2. red

    red24/7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2015
    Messages:
    6,782
    Likes Received:
    6,823
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    i made a mess of that

     
  3. AthersleyRed

    AthersleyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2011
    Messages:
    5,863
    Likes Received:
    4,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Are we surprised?
     
  4. red

    red24/7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2015
    Messages:
    6,782
    Likes Received:
    6,823
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
  5. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    43,435
    Likes Received:
    32,131
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    On Sofa
    Style:
    Barnsley
    So a pen then. Are we complaining?
     
  6. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2008
    Messages:
    40,155
    Likes Received:
    7,178
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I didn't think it was a penalty at the game but we were at the other end of the pitch so I wanted to watch it again. I still don't think it was a penalty.
     
  7. Poet

    Poet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2006
    Messages:
    7,760
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Royston, Barnsley.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Pinnock has no need to even make that challenge there at all. Reckless.
     
    GudjonFan likes this.
  8. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    12,095
    Likes Received:
    11,928
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Penalties are subjective decisions and will remain so even if VAR is fully implemented. If you are making that challenge you are entering the zone where the referee might adjudge it to be a penalty. It would have been better to shepherd the player and prevent him from getting the cross in. But talented defenders like Pinnock sometimes want to go further and actually win the ball, which comes with risks.
     
    Sopwith Camel likes this.
  9. joh

    john coucom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2017
    Messages:
    2,539
    Likes Received:
    1,928
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Would it have been given in our favour I don’t think so the standard of refereeing in the EFL is a joke
     
    anstonred likes this.
  10. Til

    Tilertoes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2015
    Messages:
    4,505
    Likes Received:
    3,125
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It just wasn’t one but it’s been given and there’s nothing we can do about it
     
  11. Sea

    Seattle_Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2015
    Messages:
    713
    Likes Received:
    340
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Watching the above it's impossible to see if it's a penalty or not unless you have x-ray vision that allows you to see through Pinnock and their player. The Sunderland player was going nowhere and Pinnock shouldn't have dived in. Once he had then the ref takes over. Pinnock had the player where he wanted him but then lost control of the situation by making a challenge he didn't need to make.
     
    Rosco and Burgundy Red like this.
  12. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    12,095
    Likes Received:
    11,928
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So: 1) Are you seriously suggesting that there is some sort of bias against Barnsley? 2) If the standard of refereeing is as good (or bad) for every team, what does it matter?
     
  13. Tek

    Tekkytyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2005
    Messages:
    7,376
    Likes Received:
    4,644
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Italy
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    Whilst I don't go along with conspiracies that the FL & referees have it in for Barnsley FC (why would they?) I find that the frequency of big decisions going against the smaller clubs and favouring the big named teams (with bigger followings potentially drawing bigger TV revenues), highly suspect. Most likely it is a subconscious bias meaning poor referees are easily swayed by reputation, a large crowd and named players applying pressure.

    The referee last night seemed to blow the whistle before the ball was even out of play and could not possibly have seen the contact (as I posted last night) due to a) the distance he was from the ball b) the fact the attacking player was directly in his line of sight.
    You only have to see the direction the ball took after the tackle to see the defender got the ball with his left leg so could not have taken the player out.
    Furthermore the aformentioned speed at which the blew meant he had no time to consult with any linesman who may have had a better view or even see a raised flag (if there indeed was one).

    Putting aside the natural bias as a fan and the "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy" that comes with that, trying to be objective it does appear to be a common theme amongst fans of smaller clubs that big decisions seem to go against them whether they should have been awarded penalties or ones given against them, more often than would reasonably be expected ) this even applies to the top 5 or 6 teans in the Premiership vs the rest.
    Sadly as an F1 fan we see the same -financially driven??-bias towards certain teams drivers. Penultimate race in Mexico with Ocon being penalised in favour of Verstappen who breached two rules (forcing a driver off the track and causing a collision) with Ocon being punished just because MV is the new Hamilton (according to some) and was leading the race and Ocon in a faster car with new tyres was unlapping himself (perfectly entitled to do so) The media circus with very few exceptions were blaming Ocon but the fan base were overwhelmingly blaming Verstappen.

    Money talks!
     
  14. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,910
    Likes Received:
    7,681
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Daft challenge to make by pinnock. He had a job on to make a chance from that angle.
     
  15. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    4,785
    Likes Received:
    4,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Also experience talks....mcgeedy was cute there...he saw the tackle was coming in and did what was required to get the decision.
    If we had got the same situation...we would probably suggest that the tackle was a silly one to make in that position and these things happen.
    The fact we hardly get pena (is it 2 in 2 years oe something?) is annoying but we have to be cute...remember hedges getting booked for simulation the other week.
     
    anstonred likes this.
  16. Old Goat

    Old Goat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    8,101
    Likes Received:
    14,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Why on earth defenders insist on going in with the wrong leg is a mystery to me. He could have wrapped his right leg around that easily enough without giving the attacker a chance to go down. Footballing basics ffs.
     
  17. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    4,785
    Likes Received:
    4,552
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Correct old goat....or just closed him down...he was going nowhere.
     
  18. red

    redrum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    26,265
    Likes Received:
    19,495
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    He is left footed he plays on the right of center to accomadate for Lindsay who is even more left footed.
     
  19. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,910
    Likes Received:
    7,681
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    Style:
    Barnsley
    More annoyingly was that was a legitimate pen I was stood at pitch level at Shrewsbury and he definitely got tripped then denied decision and then booked to add insult.
     
  20. anstonred

    anstonred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    1,184
    Likes Received:
    1,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Simply, whether or. It Pinnock should have made the challenge, it wasn’t a penalty - we’ve been awarded 1 (or is it 2?) pens in nigh on 2 years, despite numerous “stone walkers” - it really is a standing joke now!
     

Share This Page