UK fast track entry to WTO blocked

Britains terms of WTO membership are aligned with those of the EU. Leaving the EU means we have to apply for our own terms. And that's whats been blocked by a small number of WTO members

 

Toby I actually do believe in democracy and where I come from we in Scotland voted 60/40 to remain. Brexit is not what we voted for.

Imo the eventual outcome of brexit will most certainly destabilise N. Ireland and more than likely trigger another Scottish independence referendum.
It's an absolute shambles and I for one feel so uneasy with it all.

 

The French had quite a good idea about 1790

 

Every time throughout history that a government has removed rights from the population it has ended in some form of revolution, whether a full-blown civil war or a softer revolution like in the Eastern European countries in the 90s.

 

But the vote was a UK vote and not just a Scottish vote,Ian.... However I do agree with Nicola Sturgeon in the fact that Scotland should be able to have a referendum for the right to be independent, as also Wales and Ireland should have that same right too.

 

Could you imagine the froth in England if Scottish peoples views had influenced something in such a way? And sadly, my inlaws have an inherent dislike of the Scots, to the point that they'd ban an MP if they were Scottish (heard it in stereo when GB was PM a few years ago). To me that's ridiculous, but it gives you an idea of the entrenched, and frankly outdated views of some people of some generations.

I've every compassion with the Scots who voted for one thing, will get something else, and their only/main mechanism to try and counter this constant bondage inflicted by England is to try and break away.

 

I’m all for the Scots deciding what they want, good luck to them because I think they’ll need it!

They don’t want to be in our union but want to be in a European one, seems at odds until you think about what it gives them

They get independence, it all goes well for a year until they realise the handouts from central government have stopped, the oil price is only half of the wildest prediction I’ve ever seen and then they blame England for woes brought in by the split. The Scots of course by being in the EU then have a backstop of the EU to bale them out. Im sure Nicola has the script written already.

 

Why stop there what about London and every other constituent out there that voted stay.
No different to Scotland demanding another general election because they didn’t vote for Tories.
It was a UK vote and should be judged as such.

Not any different to every General Election the Tories win, Scotland have never voted for a Tory government.

 

Not since 1955....

 

Precisely. And to the person moaning about Scotland gaining independence but being part of the EU. Do you think that if Britain was better off without Scotland, that successive tory governments wouldn't have encouraged them to split?

An independent nation can choose for itself what it wishes. And being told what to do in every respect by a tory government is nothing like being part of a single market and customs union.

 

The Times today reporting that as many as 20 nations have objected to our initial proposal for WTO entry.

 

No factual evidence to support that claim in the Times though and Russia are still only one to officially object.

 

Interesting article in the Irish Press that suggests the border 'problem' has largely been created by Leo Varadkar.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/...nues-to-show-a-tin-ear-to-the-north-1.3674167

''The Irish Government has a responsibility not to be complacent or to surrender a negotiating advantage. Unlike a sea border there is a real risk of violence at a hard border, which makes it trite to throw the “de-dramatisation” cliche back at Varadkar, tempting though that might be. But the Taoiseach could deconstruct the possibility of violence. He could be clear, for example, that Brexit may affect the Belfast Agreement but does not breach it, and that nobody envisages new passport controls, road closures or routine queues for motorists under any circumstances – all widespread public concerns from both a practical and security perspective.''


''The worst-case scenario for a hard Brexit set out by Ireland’s Revenue Commissioners – before Varadkar ordered them to stop planning for it – was of a dozen official crossings with Customs posts set 10 to 20 miles back, plus cameras and Customs officers with mobile equipment to enforce the remaining 200 crossings. A small percentage of commercial vehicles would be stopped, a smaller percentage again physically inspected and no other traffic would be delayed or disrupted.''

 

I suppose there is no factual evidence that builders and construction companies have already started stockpiling materials fearing lack of supply upon a hard Brexit and being outside of WTO rules?

#theearthisflat

 

Wrong

 

Surely the border "problem" is an obvious by product of two countries side by side that may no longer be in the same customs union or a single market. There may be political point scoring. Just as the DUP is doing. And the Brextremist Tories. As are remain centrists.

But the fundamental issue is that border, and frankly, one side is going to have to be disappointed. I really don't know how this circle gets squared.

 

We won't be outside of WTO rules as I understand it, the current agreements can apply for 10? years to give time for replacements.

 

I'm not sure that's correct .

I can only suggest you read the full article, that is suggesting that Varadkar has blocked an option that would have been reasonable according to Ireland's own Commissioners.