I Keep Seeing/Hearing

That the game should do more for footballers with depression/gambling addiction/alcoholism or when they have retired.

I never see people demanding the same for factory workers. Funny world innit.

 

Support should be available for everyone.

There are 2 reasons that it's talked about more with footballers/famous people

1. They're famous. A lot more people know them or at least know of them.
2. For some reason, people seem to think that just because someone has money or fame that they can't have depression or other mental health issues, or that it somehow should offset any depression. Different roles come with different pressures and problems.

 

It should. Funny that there seems to be more of a clamour for it for the privileged rather than the disadvantaged though.

 

I mean, I explained why in my post...

 

I think the footballers upbringing and lifestyle comes into this a bit.

Bare with me here. But footballers are brought in from a young age and go all the way through academies and then onto the first team obeying and sticking to these strict rules or guidelines. They live a sheltered life almost that doesn’t expose them to the harsher realities of normal life shall we say like drinking and drugs etc.

So anyway yeah and then they retire and for some it’s a step into the real world because they don’t have these guidelines and rules to keep them on the straight and narrow, so I think that leads them to being more susceptible to falling into the dangers of alcoholism, gambling diction etc.

Maybe I’m talking utter nonsense as well.

 

Are you a factory worker?

With a problem?

I can help...

 

Lots of them with problems have problems during their careers. Early in their careers even.

 

I used to work in a factory during the summer holidays. I can see why people would have vices.

They shouldn't be taking advice from you though......

 

Yep. Considering the idea that Lee Johnson might possibly have continued the run of form that he started us on definitely disqualifies someone from knowing anything about mental health issues.

Go to bed, Conan. I have a feeling you’re going to look back on tonight with embarrassment come the morning.

 

I used to work in a factory too during the summer holidays.

I knew we had something in common!

Obviously not common sense, or intelligence wise.

I was turkeys one year, and harvest pies the next.

You?

(didn't develop anymore vices at either plant)

 

Not at all. I will just shake my head at your lack of understanding. As I am doing right now.

 

Fair point. Quite a few we know so must be more that have managed to keep it under wraps as well so far.

 

Don't let anyone assume superiority Conan. I'm still here with you. Don't keep shaking your head though at this time of night. It will impinge upon your posting.

 

Is it night or morning?

 

It must be night cos the light in the room's on.

If it were daylight the spouse would have come in and turned it off.

I hope you have so dutiful a maiden on hand.

 

Thankfully mental illness is losing its negative press in this country. Not rapidly, but we're making progress. A lot of charities and communities/organisations are popping up for people steadily now. As a person who sees these problems in a daily basis (I aint a mental health worker, mind you), it seems to be a vastly different thing to what it was even 10 years ago. Ordinary people have to drop this taboo ***** from MH, if they have a problem, talk to someone and seek advice as soon as possible, if that is possible. If not then talk to a doctor and be honest.

 

A-Team?

 

We saw a retracted statement on here which probably sums up some people's attitudes to the MH issues of the rich and famous. What have they got to be depressed about?

Mh doesn't discriminate- doesn't recognise status or wealth. It is becoming more common- on here , in life itself - still a stigma attached to unfortunately.

Broken legs etc are easy to see ... people's attitude to mh is different - oh pull yourself together!

Having suffered for 30 years- it's something I wouldn't wish on anyone - rich or poor!

 

I didn't feel Conan's comments were out of order or anything like that or in the same vein as the retracted comment.

Like I've consistently and passionately defended in numerous threads, and like you have noted, it doesn't discriminate, however there are certain sections of society that can access treatment better than say the average man of the street.

If you're earning 50k plus a year for instance it is affordable to receive therapy privately. If you are working minimum wage and cannot afford to pay, our place for instance currently has a 4-5 month wait for counselling and a 10 month wait for CBT. It is horrible having to explain this to clients, my least favourite part of my job. Can you imagine assessing someone for PTSD, opening up a can of worms, then asking them to put it back away for close to a year?

Everyone is entitled to support, but there are sections of society that will find it harder to access than footballers. I think this is perhaps what Conan was implying?

 

I didn't realise **** and ball torture was so popular. Amazed there's a 10 month waiting list