Mate do you realize how much debt comes with running a football club especially one like ours... the money HAS been re-invested into club but rather than overreaching for players he has put the money so we can run for many years into the future without going into administration. Don’t forget that
What debt? We had from what I recall about a 5 million debt to Patrick from way back. But beyond that we have been told we are living with in our means and due to player sales we must have been running at a fairly large profit. What you are saying is cryne was basically just leaving a healthy surplus for the future in case we needed it. I'd like to know where any further debt from running a club like ours Come a from? Because we spend next to nothing on anything.
Dennis Healey said...when you're in a hole, stop digging. I would recommend that course of action to you DT. If you do not believe your clear statement to be factual and truthful, why say it, are you in the habit of saying things that you do not believe , or you do not know are true or you do not know to be factual ? Interesting that you now choose the word 'probably'...so before it was ' tbf a disaster' ...now the emphasis is with 'probably' A certain brewery uses the terms ' probably the best lager in the world '...even though I suspect most of us would believe it not to be true or factual.....rather like your comments on Heckingbottom.
The academy was one example. Of course we have surplus. It was there to help fund us through the coming years in trying to compete in the championship. The only reason we had surplus to do that is because we'd.......I'm stating the obvious again.
I think what they don't realise is, that if we were to let Hecky leave, we'd probably recruit from within like we did when the Hobbit left. There would be no difference to the budget, recruitment strategy, probably little difference in the general starting 11. It would just be a different man employing his tactics. Considering said replacement worked under Hecky, the tactics may follow the same philosophy. Who would be in the frame if we were to let Hecky leave? Jamie Clapham? Paul Harsley? I think the people calling for a change haven't considered that it will be much of the same if Hecky were to leave.
I understand all this and I'm not saying it's the wrong thing to do. I was just making the point that I keep seeing "if Hecky wasn't from Barnsley" well you could apply the same logic to cryne. I see things as they are we pay lower league wages for lower league players and try and over achieve. Sooner or later that will lead to relegation. Then we will play in league one and try and get back to championship and repeat.
Well there we agree. It's what the club has done throughout its history. Wishful thinking has never changed the reality that that is where we are pitched in the pecking order. To have spent as much time as we have at level two is something we should be proud of but we have never been immune from dropping down a level. The new ownership could possibly change that scenario dramatically. I'll be disappointed if it doesn't. What disappoints me at the moment is that a month into an exciting new chapter in the club's history short termists are still acting like the world is coming to an end every time we lose a match.
I am very interested to see what the new regime does. Both this month and in the long term. I think maybe the point I was trying to make was lost. Personally I wouldn't sack Hecky if we went down. And whatever mistakes were made by previous regime don't really matter now. I am very interested to know what our recruitment policy is going forward. Not least who is making the calls. So we don't get a repeat of the unbalanced squad situation again.
No one is immune from being questioned or making mistakes. I found the number of midfielders coming through the door in the last 12 months bewildering and I'd be interested to hear Hecky's reasoning for that. In the case of Mowatt I'm pretty sure it was an attempt to mute the outcry at Conor leaving. That is definitely half a million I'd rather we'd kept in our pockets. In the immediate future I think we DO need to step outside the way we've been operating slightly. We need strengthening. We do have quite a few promising players in the squad but they're too young to handle a bad run of form. And we need goal threat badly.
You seem to be in a minority on here. You are entitled to your opinion, like everyone else. For me Hecky has done a great job this season with very limited resources. Takeover now complete & I expect us to be strengthened in the window & Hecky to get the new contract. Maybe I'm naive, but I feel optimistic that we are going to be OK.
You are 100% correct. I can go further back and remember in 1966 when we nearly folded, with gates of 2-3,000. The trouble with the young is they need immediate success.
I don't remember that far back, but I do remember the Iley years, where as soon as we got anyone decent they were sold & crowds then were about £4k & this was a time when the pits were booming (strikes excepted). People just got on a bus to watch Leeds or Wednesday. Truth is we have been as good as Leeds & Wednesday in the last decade, which partially tells how badly they have been run, but also how well we have achieved. Barnsley as a town is on its arse. I think the new owners have ideas to make us a lot more commercially successful. If you look at Burnley they are just like us in nearly every respect & they are achieving. I don't expect the same success, but it isn't totally out of the question either.
People are still getting on trains and buses to Leeds and Sheffield. We still haven't got out of the 'short term planning' way of doing things. We have just had 13 years of stagnation. As a result the expectations amongst Barnsley fans are still very low compared to the Leeds and Sheffield clubs.
Expectations are high in Leeds & Sheffield & they should be. I don't see coaches of people heading to Elland Road like they did in the 70's though. A lot of my Holgate school mates are still Leeds fans to this day.
Your understanding of basic English is indisputably awful as has been shown on other threads before, please don't try and help your pal out when he's dug himself a hole again. Ta'ra.