"They're only creating a bit of atmosphere"

Because you have bought a ticket with a seat number on it? If you all moved to that correct seat for ONE match then every single ******** causing trouble would be banned instantly without anybody else getting a ban.

What I have noticed a lot, and why stewards rarely intervene, is because whenever they do a LOT of people not involved with the original trouble suddenly get involved and start defending the tossers. Loud chants of 'we do what we want's echo around that area of the ponty regularly and it isn't just the tiny minority singing it either. Stewards go to deal with it and are met with a chorus of 'get a proper job'. The other year a large amount of Barnsley fans started assaulting stewards in the ponty for having the audacity of trying to stop dickheads

 

It really isn't.

Tesco SUSPECT you of shoplifting or even being about to shoplift and they regularly BAN you from the store.
Bfc SUSOECT you of causing criminal damage then they can BAN you from the ground.

Where is the difference?

 

Absolute morons. That's just one photo. There are others and trust me, it wasn't limited to just one or two rows. You should see the dents in the stand too. Matter of time before those dents become holes/tears in the material. Brilliant.

Then you've the smoke cannisters or whatever. Which is something else I don't agree with, but I can at least assume it's young lads who are influenced by videos they see of German, Polish, Greek games with all the pyro etc.

But can I ******** understand ripping out or smashing up seats in your own stadium. Full stop.

The fact this occurred after a 4-0 win just adds to the bewilderment.

Idiots like this are not helping the club nor the treatment of supporters in general.

 

Can anyone clarify the source of this photo please?

 

In response to your first point - because if everyone rigidly stuck to the seats allocated lots of people would be unhappy. Those wishing to stand would be obstructing those wishing to sit. Those wishing to sing and generate an atmosphere would be spread out. Standing at the back, sitting at the front works for everyone.

About the other stuff, I completely agree. Our fans are admittedly awful sometimes, but there's nothing you can do about that. 'We'll do what we want' makes me cringe so much but it's just something you have to deal with. :frown:

 

Tesco don't ban people unless they have to. What they'll do is pass your details onto rlp who demand you pay a fine

 

Disgusting

 

Did the stewards not spot em and try and stop it. ******* idiots.

 

Depends what you mean by 'deal with'. if by 'deal with' you mean 'put up with', then you are 100% wrong. We don't have to, and should never have to put up with it.

In my opinion, we have plenty enough CCTV inside the ground to nail these w*nkers, and if we can't expect the stewards to pull them out and give them a bloody good slap (which in my opinion, we can't, acting in lieu of the Police is NOT their primary responsibility), then it would be well worth the money to pay for some Police cover inside the Ponty on an unadvertised basis, on a specific match day, so that the CCTV can identify incidents of criminal damage as it occurs and then the Police can wade in and pull the brain dead t*ssers out before they have chance to leave the premises and forget all about it. We just need to be surreptitious about it - if they see the Police then they will behave. Keep them out of sight, leave the idiots until right at the end if need be and grab them on the way out if that is whats needed to avoid it all kicking off, whatever. We cannot expect stewards to wade in when resistance will be expected, but we MUST sort these b*stards out - preferably with a size 10 boot.

 

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what everything you're saying, I don't think we should have to put up with it. However I don't think that much will be done. As other posters have said it all kicks off big time if the stewards try to intervene (it becomes a majority of the support against them, rather than a small minority) and I have never seen any police presence in any of the home ends at Oakwell, I have no reason to see why that's going to change now.

I'd absolutely love for the club to prove me wrong, though. Ban them and press charges for the damage they've caused.

 

The stewards need to grow some balls, go to away matches and their stewards will stand right in the middle of fans no matter how rowdy. The head steward or one of the supervisor and a couple more need to be positioned up there.

 

The club have two big tools in stopping it becoming a majority against the stewards and they are a PA system and a video scoreboard.

Stick images of the damage up on the scoreboard accompanied by a message on the PA (voiced by PC himself if necessary) saying that "the stewards are going into the ponty end to deal with the minority of people who are causing the damage to OUR stadium that you can all see displayed on the scoreboard now. Please allow the stewards to do their job and understand that they are working to make oakwell a better place for the rest of you"

If anybody tried to obstruct the stewards then ban them as well. The vast vast majority of people are right minded and would defend the stewards.

 

The bottom line is that we need hard evidence to convict these people, to do that we need surveillance cameras in that area to identify the culprits.

 

The bottom line is that to decline their custom you don't need to do that.

Of course you could always just look on their Facebook pages where they laugh about it

 

Wouldn't have happened in my day ......there were no seats, and West Stand Upper had cushions they could throw on the pitch . Young uns getting over exited at a winning team , passionate game football !!! Or was it an accumulation of pigeon poo

 

The ground is already covered with CCTV cameras that can zoom in close enough to tell from the crumbs round your gob what flavour pie you had. Why do we need more surveillance cameras?

 

So are kids actually boasting about it on Facebook?

They'll be on kids tickets but price to fix seats will mean it's costing the club to allow them to see the team.

 

Why do we have CCTV in banks, shops, garage forecourts etc?

 

Now weve all had a rant and kicked off a bit calling people ****s..

lets be a bit cynical and ask why the club who knew about the smashed seats at 18:00 after the rotherham game with the post match chose to wait ten days to voice this issue on the eve of the first fans engagement meeting...

And then as of last night via an employees twitter feed and on a internet forum rather than via official site.

 

I wouldn't know about Tesco banning suspected shop lifters. How come you do?