The 'burkini' ban in France

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  1. JamDrop

    JamDrop Well-Known Member

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    She's not wearing a burka, she's wearing leggings, a long sleeved top and a head scarf similar in style to a bandana. A burka covers the whole face and body apart from the eyes. I understand that not covering up at the beach is their rules but what I do not understand is why:

    1) they have rules to stop people wearing leggings and long sleeved tops to the beach (especially as a result of a man driving a truck and that women can wear those things not on the beach); and
    2) they felt that 4 armed men were needed to ask a woman to take her top off
     
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    Here we go again... 4 armed men, blah blah blah.

    They didn't have their guns pointed at her head, so the fact they were armed is irrelevant. Unbelievable.
     
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    It disgusts me, absolutely appalling.
     
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    4 men is indeed overkill but as for the firearms, large sections of the police in France carry firearms at all times so I doubt it is just for this they decided to wear them.
     
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    I don't get your point here. They're all **** laws. One country having **** laws doesn't make **** laws in another country any more justifiable.
     
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    Way I see it

    rules are rules, whether you agree or not if France says that is their rule once its announced they have to enforce it.
    Regarding the armed thing, its not like they picked guns up to specifically approach her they ar armed officers, you can't expect them to take them off.
    Like I say whether you think its right or not those are the rules in France and they were widely publicised, given what the French have been through lately I would say its their turf, their rules largely affecting their people, end of.
     
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    And this pathetic stuff from you for the last couple of years is wy a lot of people don't post anymore.
     
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    What on earth are you babbling on about now?
     
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    If you can't work it out I'll not bother telling you. Let's just say you used to be a decent person who was interesting and funny. Something drastically changed and the only similarity to that person that still exists is the username
     
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    Re: Way I see it

    This. I don't agree with it but it is French law and if I went to France or any country in the world I would respect their laws.
     
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    Okay then.
     
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    Re: Way I see it

    So would I but at the same time isn't it a bit different when you are already living there and they deliberately pass a law to discriminate against you and to oppress you? It's not like if I went on holiday or moved to a country where I knew they had certain laws, it's more like the house of lords suddenly passing a law banning something that you have always been allowed to do and that has never caused any problems.

    In fact, in a way it is like how they banned standing at football matches (though that actually had a safety reason) and how a LOT of BBS users are happy to publicly state that they break that law and will forever refuse to abide by it
     
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    Re: Way I see it

    Are there specifically laws against covering up on a beach? My partner is half French. So we travel over there fairly extensively. I've certainly worn a wet suit and a sun hat though not at the same time) without the police being called and the missis wears a sarong quite often. Leggings are not her thing but she has certainly worn trousers. Would a French woman be approached by armed police if say she was sitting on a beach in linen trousers and a sun hat because I didn't notice this happening last time we were over ( and the arrest rate for the over 60s would certainly go through the roof as every over French woman over 60 seems to favour this).

    The law regarding burka wearing is quite clear. But this seems an adjunct that is not being evenly applied.
     
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    There were 4 men and they were armed so not sure why you would have an issue with a factual description.
     
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    Because the fact they were armed is being made out to sensationalise the whole story. I once was told to "hurry up" by an copper who happened to be carrying a gun at a football match, doesn't mean anything different to what happened here.
     
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    I don't want to row with you but have you ever been approached by multiple armed police? It's both very intimidating and frightening and I say that as a 6ft 4 bloke. A couple of times in India and Pakistan and quite frequently in Sri Lanka it happened to me and it's not summat to dismiss out of hand.
     
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    Re: Way I see it

    Not s good example there ST tbh.
    Wearing a burkini is not harming anyone either directly or indirectly but standing at football matches impairs the experience of anyone who bought a ticket and have/ want to sit but can't because some ignorant selfish ****** decides he's gonna stand up.
    Unfortunately the victim had no say in who is in front of him.
    That said the french law/directive or whatever it is , is at best farcical . Of all the effective ways of combatting Radicalisation this is definitely not one.
     
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    Yes I have, in Germany most Police officers you see are armed so it happens frequently before the football. It is slightly intimidating when you see the gun(s) but they'd have to be off the hook to shoot you for no apparent reason.
     
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    Re: Way I see it

    You wouldn't be wearing a burka. Glad to see You don't agree with it however
     
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    Re: Way I see it

    That's because the law regarding the wearing of burkinis is totally bonkers, I'd actually love to see the French police round up all the oaps on Antibes beach :) that would amuse me!
     
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